Casing wbs tek Idk 😶🌫️ It took right around 17-18 days to get pins poking through the casing. Hi guys, i have been reading in Shroomery regarding fruiting straight WBS. Drain dry for a few minutes. #21699783 - 05/19/15 07:28 PM (9 years, 6 months ago) Edit : Reply : Quote : Quick Reply: Of course, since I used MS and I didn't do any casing my pinset was a bit uneven. 8) Add your casing layer. Place the horse manure into a sterilized container, preferably lined with a trash bag, and put your colonized substrate on top. shroomology. I never even put a casing, n seriously never had 1 contamination, n colonizes fast, to fruit I bang the tray out in a tote so it gets Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. works everytime, no hassle, no rinse, no drying the seed. Like Step 7, you want this “casing” layer to be as smooth as possible. after seeing some pics of doc34 i'm jealous. Best WBS Tek EZ Potato-Honey Agar Tek MY TRADES. About $8 at RK Plain white bag with a sticker/label. You should let your casing layer colonize 50-75% before introducing fruiting conditions. 30% is the MAX you should allow a casing layer to be colonized. should i switch from pf to wbs or try casing crumbled cakes? i'd be reluctant to switch i must say i'm comfortable with my pf. Open comment sort And Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. For this tek we will bring the water to a simmer and then immediately remove as to avoid overhydration. Just soak the wbs for 24 hours and then pc, why are you bothering with other shit Looks and smells fine too me but the casing layer doesn't seem to be colonizing. i use mainly WBS, for that a simple WBS tek tutorial on shroomery, without throwing the floaters away. NOTE: I am using 40 pounds. Q. You will need some WBS (Wild Bird Seed) In my case, I am using a 40 pound bag. I wanted to do a bigger scale grow using these: but I I'm a relatively new user on this site, but I've read a lot about the bulk process and I have a solid grasp on different methods used in combination with the PF Tek, not to mention first hand experience Violet, your tek has been super helpful for me and has allowed me to get individual clones for genetics easily. I have yet to have any jars or bags fail this way! This tek will teach you how to prep your WBS, not help you pick our jars, bags or lids. 5 parts calcium carbonate Distilled water (amount varies) While these are just a few examples, you may modify or create your own recipe depending on what you have on hand. 7 Simple Agar Recipes – Using Agar Plates for Mushroom Work. The link I provided will give you measurements to according sizes. Extras: Top: FungusMan I81U812 Registered: 08/06/05 Posts: 3,112 This casing exhibited some of the worst overlay I have ever experienced. I greatly prefer the new simple TEK and consider this old one essentially obsolete but much of the info in this older TEK may still be of interest to my audience so I'm leaving it Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. I produced my biggest fruit ever off of WBS with your tek, nothing giant giant, but a 6g dry fruit made me super happy. 00; Overlay is a term that refers to the condition which can occur to an overly colonized casing layer. These grows are from from WBS that was not left to age in the jar. Grain and seed prep:PrimalSoup's Simple Rye Grain prep tek 04-09-2011, TranscendingLife's Simple WBS Prep Tek 04-10-2012 WBS Tek – How To Prepare Wild Bird Seed for Mushroom Cultivation. lookin to do my first bulk any help would be greatly appreciated ty Greetings, So far I've been erring on the side of my WBS being too dry after soaking/simmering with a 50/50 success rate. all you have to do with wbs is add three hundred fifty ml of dry seed to a qt jar straight outta the bag and add 175ml of water, put the lid on and pc for ninety at fifteen psi. With that said, why do they benefit from it so much, unless it is simply the water holding capabilities. ach said: I use and like FooMans! Unsure if Millet works the same as WBS. 5 parts calcium carbonate ; Distilled water (amount varies) While these are just a few examples, you may modify or create your own recipe depending on what you have on hand. RR you said that verm outperforms, coir, manure, etc. and cover/turn off heat. 20 quarts only takes me 30-40 minutes to make. its now 2:25. 0 INTRO I have not been on here in a while and as I was going over different tek's that I have contributed, I realized that this was outdated. Figure at the least, it will explode!:headbang::headbang: going to post some closeups so you can see the difference. A few improvements were made along the way that were taken from many pages of comments and Search Our Site | Search Our Forums Search Our Forums ☰ New Account | Log In | Contact Us lookin for a tek that does wbs with spawn bags. ach presented here is extremely easy to do and This article describes the benefits and drawbacks of using a casing layer, casing layer recipes, and the process to make a casing layer. The casing layer could be a simple hydrated coir, or can be more complex. Both work great. The WBS was pretty wet before PCing, and still is visibly a little wet. I empty the bag into a large food grade bucket. Don’t underestimate the yield of a shoebox This is part of my series on how I get things done. possible reason for variation could be that the clone came from a WBS casing, and so it is more suited to that media In regards to cubes, I have done PF tek so far and now have a couple of monotubs (costa rican/wbs>spawned to coir/verm) almost done colonizing. So I got my was together added gypsum and not thinking added coffee grounds. Technique Share Add a Comment. Before you start talking shit there is a very similar method to this tek for rye in TMC so I learned in mycology that you BACK TO TOP <-Click This was a sorghum grain jar contaminated with mold, probably Dactylium(cobweb) note to clear difference in healthy white mycelium with mold mycelium. Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. I use this when im doing big weight grows cause i need alot of jars and seed and i dont General question WBS tek . 17 ** Mini casing pictures: Pins to harvest Cup O' Shrooms Magash: I noticed Monotub Professor Pinheads RTV Injection Port Tek Foo Mans No Soak WBS Prep Tek. Logged; wbs casing. The PF Cake - Recipes through Inoculation; The PF Cake - Incubation through Birthing; The PF Cake - Birthing through Harvest; This allows the mycelium to partially colonize the casing, leading to more even and prolific fruiting. I didn't As for potency, I cannot speak from experience, although I have been doing my homework, I understand WBS, or more specifically, the millet IN WBS gives the shrooms a really good start, and (agreeing again) h-pooh or compost as a casing produces very potent shrooms. I soak for 25 minutes, dry for 30, shaking every 5 minutes or so. ----- Ive heard that not using a casing at all will still give hefty flushes, but Ive also heard that using something like a 50/50 will improve the flush. Except for the liquid inoculation its a super simple procedure. Inc. For instance, PetsMart has 40 [Disclaimer: this work was done in a location where it is legal and I suggest you do likewise] UPDATE 2024: I have published a new simpler TEK for growing pan cyan that you may want to jump to. then sterialize like always, 1h 15psi. Thank you eatyualive and blindingleaf for your support, knowledge, thoughts, ideas, and skill while I was experimenting with new grain preps. I've got all the materials one would Casing layers are not to be colonized and if they are, it completely defeats the purpose of the cashing layer. If the WBS brand being used has a lot of sunflower seeds in it consider removing some. Apply the casing material to your substrate. Im wondering if the grains are too dry. Cake F. Our growers and people worldwide have had great success with this very easy casing method. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more! Some expensive brands are coated with a fungicide. At What Does a Casing Layer Do? A casing layer helps to provide an ideal micro-climate for primordium (pins) to form. I want a faster I like Shea's tek with no pc, When the containers are colonized I remove the verm layer and add some casing. So now I'm moving up to the WBS so if feels like I'm moving up in the world muahaha. Alot of great information - BUY THE DVD Cakes can and will pin! - So General question WBS tek . Advertising; Contact Us; Credits; Emergency Info; Info For Parents What's the difference between grains and PF - tek substrate? 5. I want a faster Quote: wutang said: lol think about what you just said no you cant use a spent cake because theres nothing in it i reccomend some reading here at the shroomery a little reading goes a long way bud, goodluck He's right, reading is key. You'll gain access to Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. The casing layer acts as a microclimate and adds moisture resulting in more Why not use WBS tek? For many people, the choice of tek is close to arbitrary in that all methods are similar and, if done correctly, produce a good crop of shrooms[ii]. Panaeolus bisporus Small Scale Direct Inoculation Grow A PF tek/ Mac Merdin Pancake style grow. Just makes me look forward to working with some agar in the near future. Extras: Top: kayabear Solar Vape wbs is about $4-$10 for a 20 pound bag sometimes 50 pound bags depending on where you go. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more! 7. Fill it with cold water and stir the grains well, this will kick up a lot of dirt and straw and other crap. i started out by cloning a mushroom from a dealer i got a while back using some agar. The worm casing can be found at many better gardening supplies, You can use either Roadkill's horse manure tek or Agar's. If you want to do a small batch these bags hold between 3 and 4 quarts each. A casing layer is used to create a microclimate at surface to encourage pinning. Quote: Jekyll said: Thanks I've been searching around, and I'm still not sure what the difference is between "cake" method and a "casing" method. Use coir and buy a tub, it will cost $15 AT MOST. so basically at spawn time. The following grows are from these RGS jars which had The tek could have been made picture-laden, but as complete and info filled as it is I made sure there ~Casing layer ~Procedure ~Growth stage photos Restarting the cycle with clean spore prints and syringes Wild bird seed (WBS) is acceptable if well-rinsed, carefully hydrated as the many seeds are different sizes, and sunflower seeds are While WBS is more prone to contam, the speed of colonization surely makes that risk less. A. User actions. I decided to follow this tek after reading Eatyualive's praise for it. Wrote down my steps if anyone's been struggling like I have. PF TEK - writeup by EvilMushroom666 Lets Grow Mushrooms - RogerRabbit & RoadKills website with sample videos plus the full PF TEK video series. Am about ready to case my wbs Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. as a casing layer, about 1-2cm thick. My first attempt - PF Tek. I have been doing a much much easier way with comparable results. I found it helpful when I was experimenting with casing. Regular stirring during soaking can help in even hydration. 17. 50; A way to grow Cubensis utilizing sphagnum moss to provide moisture. It isn't much extra work. Stir occasionally as the water heats up. Just measure the amount you want into a bucket or pot. 00 Colonization Time: The main difference between whole grain and PF style jars is that whole grain remains loose, and can be shaken, thus spreading the mycelium points and colonizing faster. Jar and pc as normal. Registered: 08/07/04 Posts: 2,035 Quote: the only reason peat is added is because it changes color when dry. Watch Part 3 Here!. Yield. Always monitor for contamination; a fresh and clean environment is key. It is basically just steeping your WBS, which is soaking it at near-boiling Read More How to Make a Mushroom Casing Layer. As for potency, I cannot speak from experience, although I have been doing my homework, I understand WBS, or more specifically, the millet IN WBS gives the shrooms a really good start, and (agreeing again) h-pooh or compost as a casing produces very potent shrooms. How To | Recipes. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more! The dubtub tek is pretty self explanatory if you just look at the pictures of a completed dubtub. The beauty of this setting is that it holds food at, you guessed it, pasteurization temp to keep it safe from bacteria for up to 10 hours. We use bags, but this WBS prep tek will work for whatever you use! REQUIREMENTS / MATERIAL LIST Wild Bird Seed - Any brand of WBS will work, Pennington Classic is the cleanest with the least waste. This is a lazy-man's casing layer. I always go for the one with as little corn and sunflower seeds as possible. My advice is don’t panic and be patient, it can take time. Quote: jay. Print. Does anyone have a link or advice in making jar lids Best WBS Tek EZ Potato-Honey Agar Tek MY TRADES. Instead of brewing it and adding it as a liquid. Some growers use a Greetings! This post hold in high regard Doc's WBS tek combined with Damion's 50/50 elementary coir tek. Extras: Top: ScavengerType Registered: 01/24/08 Posts: 5,784 Loc: The North Last seen: 11 years, 3 months Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Open comment sort options So I've grown mushrooms before using the PF Tek, they did what I expected them to. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more! If you haven't seen it, search around for Hyphaes casing TEK. Let the casing material cool down in the microwave oven. Some mentioned that its difficult to fruit, but most mentioned that it can be done, but small fruits are the usual yield. PF Tek Mushrooms are one of the easiest ways to grow Psilocybe cubensis. Makes me feel like an Ass because TBH, I haven't prepped my WBS like this since maybe 2012. this was then topped off with 1 quart of spawn laid out flat like casing. Search Our Forums ☰ New Account | Log In | Contact Us. You can find untreated WBS in 5 -10 & 20 pound bags, at low prices at most large chain grocery stores, or chain type pet supply stores. then i put them into 425ml jars, nearly all the way full and add 2 tablespoons of hydrated coffee grounds for extra nutrients. - Mycotylium This image has a graphic description, please read the photo Bodhisatta This is blue bruising, it's very common and not a contamination. Soaking wbs - The Final Answer by Agar 50/50 Coco Coir versus 50/50 Peat Moss. should i switch from pf to wbs or try casing crumbled I just finished a flush where i used WBS but it didn't come out just right. Find our Subtropicalis Casing Layer Recipe below. Thats why so many people use it over rye. Pull the container out of the microwave oven. What Does a Casing Layer Do? A First and foremost, SWIM would like to note that, if done correctly, this TEK can make one spawn bag starting from spores and ending with a yield of approximately 300 fresh Casing, the protective layer atop the substrate, is essential for many mushroom species. We use our standard casing layer recipe with just a little less water. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more! -----Self Healing lid tek ** Update 10. I would say 15min hot soak gets WBS to about 60% hydration and 60 min hot soak hydrates the WBS to 77%. This time I went with foomans tek. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more! Casing early with a mixed tub is going to force vertical myc growth which is what you want for pin production. But that is ok. A casing isn’t necessary for APEs, I just thought it would increase my yield but honestly Search Our Site | Search Our Forums Search Our Forums ☰ New Account | Log In | Contact Us 60/40 Casing Tek Ingredients: 10 parts vermiculite 4 parts coco coir 2. for about 20-27 days , grow rate was very very fast withen a day they grew 2 or more Site Map link above is the best I found by myself. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more! Ive been getting a lot of contamination with my WBS jars lately. [Technique] Rookie steps, but I finally mastered my wbs Tek for perfect hydration every time. I like Shea's tek with no pc, When the containers are colonized I remove the verm layer and add some casing. You can use either Roadkill?s horse manure tek or Agar?s. I pay 17 bucks for a 50lb bag of whole oats, that's 35ish cents a pound, one of the cheapest grains to use, with the caveat that it's not for human consumption, nor the most nutrition-dense grains, but for the cost and effort to process, there's no better option. you just dump some in a pot te night before and fill it with water, then throw the pot on the stove and simmer for 10 minutes, then strain for 10-20 and load into jars with a tyvek filter on I have two shoe boxes of each spawned from WBS to CVG bulk substrate. I will be using 7 quart jars of fully colonized WBS I prepped using my WBS tek. Some mycologists opt to simmer WBS pre-soak for optimal water content. Coco Coir Casing Question? Squeeky: 5,834: 1 : 06/10/02 04:16 PM by henryp: Hip's Bulk Tek ( 1 2 all) Mklangelo: 23,171: 29 : 12/20/14 07:00 PM by taGyo: K-mycs WBS tek seen alot of wbs tek on here and i have combined key steps of trusted teks to make this no fail wbs tek what you will need 1pint mason jars with lids (wide mouth) SFD (i use tyvek envelopes, free from post office) duct tape (good shit not cheap stuff) silicone screwdriver (to punch holes) hammer (to hit screwdriver) I recently purchased RTV High-Temp Silicon and polyfill,however, I was wondering if it was possible to go through with the tek without tyvek. Home. Place the pot on the stove over medium-high heat. ive done 5 years worth of 9er tek clones in a shmuvbox with maybe 1 possible contam. And no measuring things or filling up tons of little jars. Am i going to pay $3 for one rye jar or $6 for 50 wbs jars I think wbs colonizes quicker and is said to be better. I for one tried fruiting from straight WBS with casing twice first time, i chuck the whole casing away after it didnt fruit about 2 weeks. In this case, I am using 7 quarts of PR WBS to about 12-15 lbs of dried horse manure in a 64 qt container. 5 parts crushed oyster shells (optional: used as a buffing agent for sustained pH) 0. If you could go to a mill Im sure rye is cheap. whole brown rice tek? #9418876 - 12/12/08 02:24 PM (16 years, 8 days ago) Edit Actually that jar beat out the WBS I have going right now I never even put a casing, n seriously never had 1 contamination, n colonizes fast, to fruit I bang the tray out in a tote so it gets top n side growth, n alot, dunk after each fruit n I can buy wbs (straight millet) for about 20 bucks for a 40lb bag but millet in bags is such a shitty deal casing with pre used pf tek substrate: superpsilyguy: 1,490: 3 : 12/16/02 06:16 PM by Coma of Souls: simple pf tek question: Jason2632: I recently purchased RTV High-Temp Silicon and polyfill,however, I was wondering if it was possible to go through with the tek without tyvek. in pf tek. What should i use? im a noob at this =D Casing Procedures; Cloning; Contamination; Drying and Storage; Fruiting Chambers; Grain Spawn; Humidification; Liquid Culture; Spore Prints and Syringes; This tek is part of bod's cultivation is easy as fuck link list Bod's easy AF bucket tek (an adaptation of damion5050's bucket TEK) The original bucket TEK by Damion5050. Casing Procedures; Cloning; Contamination; Drying and Storage; Fruiting Chambers; Grain Spawn; Humidification; Liquid Culture; Spore Prints and Syringes; Sterilization and Pasteurization; Cultivation Archive. In this case, I'm using WBS. The important thing, especially for inexperienced growers, is to use some established method; hybrid teks invented on the fly by newbies tend not to Measure out the amount of WBS needed and throw it into a stockpot. Make your casing with whatever casing mix you decide to use and let them sit in the incubator for 4 to 7 days then birth. I was planning to case with CVG until research pointed me to the 50/50+ casing tek. Similar to other exotic species, subtropicalis does require a casing layer for fruiting. Extras: Top: a2thej Cosmic Cowboy Registered: 07/21/11 Posts: 687 You can mix WBS flour or BRF with your poo and verm, sterilize in PC and nocc with spores or LC, to make poo cakes Casing Procedures; Cloning; off your ac when you do clean work. I recently tried the wbs tek and all my jars are colonizing very quickly (much quicker than brf cakes). As it stands, I want Okay so about a month ago I inoculated my first dozen jars for a non-PF TEK grow, WBS from petco. The mycelium is very resilient and reforms a WBS cake quickly. Started by psycho4psilo, July 09, 2007, 03:24:34 PM. 2 quarts peat moss (or 2000ml) Double Tek Pictorial Getting the most out of your casings!, A pinning strategy. -----May All Beings be Peaceful, Happy and Free Extras: Top: joshua_5 rebel Quick WBS Prep. This is part of my series "The Basics" A Quick Way To Prepare Rye Berries For Grain Spawn This rye prep tek is based on FooMan's WBS Tek. Learn about the various Mushroom Growing Teks, and which is best suited for you | PF Tek | Spawn + Bulk Substrate Tek | Uncle Bens Tek | How to Grow Mushrooms | Mushroom Cultivation wbs casing; wbs casing. org/forums/topic/1 Damion's Coir Tek I have been asked several times how do I prepare my coir, so here is a quick step by step on how I prepare my coir. Pins first appear 4 days after casing. Method 1 - using Quart Jars: 1. There have even been people who have had their shoebox tek’s take a month to colonize. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more! If you are looking for WBS, try to get it without cracked corn. By Magic Mycology April 22, 2020 December 12, 2021. Additionally, the casing layer helps the colonized substrate retain its moisture as well as prevent rotia grain though more expensive and calls for more careful preparation. Follow your favorite tek for substrate prep and moisture content. This is just the way I prepare my WBS prior to PC'ing. eventually i got a good jar of fully colonized wbs and used that as the master grain jar, cooked 5 jars up and first time using WBS!! w/5050 casing tek - Mushroom Cultivation - Shroomery Message Board Search Our Forums ☰ New Account | Log In | Contact Us. I really think WBS is much easier than BRF PF Tek. Ok. I plan to case with Coco Coir. ----- Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. 2 quarts wbs was spawned to 1 turkey tin of substrate and mixed all together nice and even. Subsequent flushes from crumbled WBS have been larger (more fruits and larger fruits) than those dunked and not crumbled. I'm looking for the wbs tek where you just pour water in the jar of wbs and PC. So I'm doing a batch of doc's WBS tek. Does anyone have a link or advice in making jar lids I am trying to decide wether I should go with the WBS, Grain, or Popcorn Tek for my first grow. I will be using 11 quart jars of substrate I pasteurized using my pasteurization tek. i read somewhere that if you decide fruit the wbs by itself that you should add a casing layer for the wbs will dry out. Are there any other teks out there that I am unaware of? ANy suggestions for the best tek? thanks Casing Procedures; Cloning; Contamination; Drying and Storage; Fruiting Chambers; Grain Spawn; Humidification; Liquid Culture; Spore Prints and Syringes the bucket tek isn't proper pasteurization, you should properly pasteurize. Extras: Top: Cultosaurus Aspiring Psychon aught Registered: 11/28/08 Posts: 239 Loc: Ontario, Canada Last I am trying to decide wether I should go with the WBS, Grain, or Popcorn Tek for my first grow. Not to sound mean, but there are indeed several guides to using crumbled cakes as a casing. Extras: Top: Jump to top: Pages: 1: Shop: Certified Organic All-In-One Grow Bags Isolated Cubensis Liquid Culture For Sale No Unicorns Here—Just Quality Bags That Work Bulk Substrate Substrate Bags Buy Kratom Extract Bulk Cannabis Seeds: The casings were prepared identical and the ones with WBS have about 3x the pins while the popcorn has slightly larger pins, but much more spaced out. Starting WBS Spawn. other than that. Tips on incubating a coco coir casing *Updated!* ( 1 2 all) fIsh in my head: 6,492: 20 : 06/08/03 03:09 PM by jakeholman: 50/50 TEK: DSD: 4,660: 10 : 07/19/17 11:14 AM by bodhisatta: Substrate prep ( 1 2 all Im trying to grow shrooms for the first time and im going to use the wbs tek, the only thing is that i dont have a pressure cooker. He is also correct when it comes [Technique] Rookie steps, but I finally mastered my wbs Tek for perfect hydration every time. It is an indicator that the cake That seems to help re hydration a lot. I'm about to start my first WBS grow, and I was wondering if anyone would be so kind as to point out a damn good (or perhaps the best in their opinion) lid tek. I hope it helps! Quote: RogerRabbit said: Once your spawn jars are fully colonized, you can scratch your butt while you inoculate the coir if you want. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more! Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. At field capacity, sprinkle enough coco coir to cover all visible white grains completely, 1/8” to ¼” deep. Str0be's NO FAIL WBS TEK V2. This guide will answer all your questions about the PF Tek method. You'll gain access to CASING TEK Casing layers are an excellent tool for hobby mycology when called for. But it includes everything, not just Teks, I was suggesting just a Tek archive, All the teks organized by category, say incubation chamber build teks, WBS tek, Casing teks, all in different categories. The 50/50+ casing consists of vermiculite, peat moss, crushed oyster shell flour and Cleaning the WBS: The purpose of these first few steps is to thoroughly clean your WBS and to remove any and as much of the unwanted additives as possible and to remove any unwanted seeds such as the Black Sunflower Seeds along ADDITIONAL INSIGHTS & TIPS FOR WILD BIRD SEED (WBS) TEK: Ensure the WBS brand chosen is free from additives or fungicides. My average total time from the time I shoot them up till the first harvest with this grain tek is 4 to 5 Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Skip to content. I use organic jiffy mix seed starter, straight from the bag. So i've wanted to try a no soak no simmer Wbs tek, i found two ratios one by weight and one by volume as follows 300g Wbs to 150g water 90 min 15 psi 400ml wbs to 200ml water 90 min 15 psi So both are 2:1 ratio wbs:h20 Is any one using these ratios or something similar with Wbs (not rye etc) with any success? Or any no soak no simmer teks for wbs? Grains need to be perfect, basically, obviously there is room to wiggle, but I did Doc's WBS tek the first time I ever prepped WBS & it failed miserably. Rye is about $25 for 20 pounds. Wild bird seed (WBS) is acceptable if well-rinsed, carefully hydrat. just pre wbs some casing, and verm (does the verm need Easy step by step WBS Tek, from prep to inoculation. The jars have been shaken twice throughout the past month last night I followed doc's wild Bird seed tek as always I started to soak my grains last night but will not be able to pc the grains until tomorrow what should I do will they be ok still soaking Just thought i would share how i do my bird seed maybe it will help some people out , maybe not . This casing layer is critical to ill be casing them in various 9 gallon jugs i have around the house, so i wont need a fruiting chamber :), fill the bucket, put rap over the top and it makes its own fruiting chamber Thanks,Any pics? Self Healing lid tek ** Update 10. Penningtons brand is featured in this Tek. ,verm. Once your casing layer is 50-75% colonized, you can be sure the rest of your mycelial network has reconnected, and is ready for fruiting conditions! Make sure to maintain Proper Surface Conditions when fruiting! whole brown rice tek? #9418876 - 12/12/08 02:24 PM (16 years, 8 days Actually that jar beat out the WBS I have going right now (still trying to get moisture right) at a colonization time of about 14 days. Problem is I still need to get to wal-mart to get jars. I mean I couldn't crush them w/ my finger after I decided to ditch the damn jars. If you need to pasteurize your substrate or casing: In case you are an idiot, it's this button. Doc's is a good tek also. upvotes Large_Dose's Ohmatic Monotub Tek Monstermitch's LC/WBS/Monotub/Casing Tek. https://www. If you’re already experienced with PF Tek you might want Now there is going to be a lot of flack headed my way over this tek. Is there anything inherently wrong using the pf tek in conjunction with the monotub idea?. right? what's the purpose of breaking it up? I was always under the impression that the A grinder isnt needed to break up colonized WBSyou just shake it. starting soaking the seeds at like 7 last night. What is "overlay"? 5. Ingredients: 10 parts vermiculite; 4 parts coco coir; 2. After 20 min of being dumped in a pot of hot water (after removing the pot from heat after full boil) Fooman style I think After 60 min in hot water soak 60-85 degrees C (165-210F) Colonization time varies based on the growing conditions (temperature, humidity etc) but in general Shoebox Tek’s colonize in about 5-10 days. For use as spawn material, treated WBS is not advisable. Also, shaking is a great benefit to the tek. Advertising; Contact Us; Credits; Emergency Info; Info For Parents Can cyan's be grown using the same basic WBS crumbling/casing tek with vermiculite? I'm reading up on cope cyan's but I dont want to have to deal with dung or compost or straw. probably can't get to the store for I am going to move up to WBS this week and have the 6T WBS Tek and Doc's WBS Tek. Extras: Top: Brennus Student of Life Registered: 05/31/08 Posts: 3,297 Loc: SE United States Last seen: 6 years, 2 months Re: Cow manure as an alternative to horse manure. } for many years now always had good results. a. psycho4psilo. a few hours later come back. I have 3 WBS quart jars that I knocked up with Pan Cyan Hawaii spores. Like if you enjoyed and sub for more. This shot gives you an idea of how wet to keep the casing while it is pinning. Here's my problem: most WBS casing teks also need vermiculite; "what the hell ? the only way I can grow shrooms is with vermiculite??" Just forget WBS in the first place and do another tek? Cheers guys! P. while in the casing method you just put some more verm on your cake. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. I mean I understand it really requires casing, but that is just as easy as fruiting cakes (which seem to be pretty stubborn). Monotub Professor Pinheads RTV Injection Port Tek Foo Mans No Soak WBS Prep Tek. and add water You want enough water to cover the WBS. For a great tek on how to make your 50/50+ casing layer from raw materials, look no further than RR's video on the topic. and I was wondering if any of you have ever experimented with other foods either mixing it to the BRF or replacing it with an alternative. So there is a big difference in hydration with WBS at least. Extras: Top: Nibin Getting there Registered: 11/29/05 the sunflower thing is a myth, i quit takin em out a long time ago. Extras: Top: Nuggetpouch. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more! I am going to be growing a new batch using the pf-tek and I have always use organic brown rice flower as the food for the myc. Just soak the wbs for 24 hours and then pc, why are you bothering with other shit Reply reply PraxiSattva Looks and smells fine too me but the casing layer doesn't seem to be colonizing. I plan on doing this with all my grows, TIP - with your WBS, i saw a great tek where u boil water, throw in your wbs. See original post here. I believe in the cake method you take the cake and break it up. and don't touch any Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Late casing a mixed tub will more than likely NOT be as beneficial as the below post indicates. it was eq strain. Spray the air with Lysol. I should note that I do not make much effort at removing the old casing from the crumbled WBS that is soaking. What does color have to do with growing mushrooms? Quote: that doesnt make sense, because what hold the most moisture PF TEK - writeup by EvilMushroom666 Lets Grow Mushrooms - RogerRabbit & RoadKills website with sample videos plus the full PF TEK video series. I use quart jars filled about 2/3 of the way with WBS that I soak for 12 hours and then let dry on a strainer for about 3-4 hours Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. You can use either Roadkill's horse manure tek or Agar's. Reasons to use casing layers are to provide a low-nutrition pinning environment for grows that do not have one, as this has turned out to be a major need for Cubensis, as well as to provide moisture retention for the grains in fruiting chamber environments and an ideal humidity micro I usually have way faster colonization with others in the past using franks wbs tek. In this case, I?m using WBS. (yes I followed the tek to the "T") The grains were wayyyy too dry. it really is that easy to use wbs. I soaked the WBS for about 12 hours and simmered for 30. I do shake the jars after PC -- not much, just a couple of shakes so the seed move around. Sort by: New. #11671390 - 12/17/09 08:17 PM (15 OK, first off, this method that I am about to explain isn't anything new or revolutionary. The only one I've found without corn recently was Scott's Pet Products 20# Deluxe WBS- Milo, Wheat, Millet and Sunflower seeds. I decided to go back to square one, and watched the chapter Casing Procedures; Cloning; Contamination; Drying and Storage; Fruiting Chambers; 50/50 WBS Success, and RR's Grain Tek. I basically added extra bath time because rye is much thicker than WBS. cost effective. if you do your work quick with good technique. and it actually just didn't germinate. Alot of great information - BUY THE DVD Cakes can and will pin! - So you think cakes suck for pins. WBS prepped via this Tek fully colonized 6 quarts of sterlized rye berries, and working on a 6 quart bag of sterilzed whole oats. . You really are wasting a golden opportunity to do a bulk spawn. A casing tek using colonized pf cakes and mini terrariums made of plastic cups and plastic bags. So I'm doing Strobes NO FAIL Hey My sisters friends daughter was growing using 500ml jars of WBS in a casing with a 50/50 peat moss verm. Last time I did this, the grain was still pretty wet how long do most people let their Last night I followed Fooman's WBS prep tek to a T. This also rinses your wbs in Pull the container out of the microwave and stir up the casing material with a clean utensil. Put it back in the microwaveand nuke it for another 5 minutes. Go Down Pages 1. Previous topic - Next topic. first brf cakes, then crumbled cakes and casing, and eventually moved to I've been using pf tek traditional cake {brf. Pour the water out slowly, dumping anything Here is a real easy casing mix that works great for cubensis, panaeolus, and other species. It was layer upon layer Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. responses from the expirienced would be greatly appreciated. Sphagnum Moss Tek. b. The bottom of my 1/2 pint jars were a little too moist. i turn it off 30 minutes prior to any clean work. S: if you're here to tell me the generic I've been using pf tek traditional cake {brf. 3. I was considering using just verm, but forum posts PF Tek. your WBS will be at peak water levels, with few exploded seeds. July 09, 2007, 03:24:34 PM. Considering a Shoebox. Casing Peat moss and vermiculite, mixed in a 1:1 ratio, makes a really good casing layer. Research tells me that both benefit from applying a casing layer once bulk is completely colonized. Extras: Top: obi Du Bois Registered: 07/19/06 Posts: 582 Loc: Europa Last seen: 2 years, 5 months Large_Dose's Ohmatic Monotub Tek Monstermitch's LC/WBS/Monotub/Casing Tek. Read More WBS Tek – How To Prepare Wild Bird Seed for Mushroom The chemical formula for vermiculite (MgFe,Al)3(Al,Si)4O10(OH)2·4H2O I don't see what in this formula the mushrooms could be eating, with the exception of Iron an Magnesium. 17 ** Mini casing pictures: Pins to harvest Cup O' Shrooms WBS TEK Grain LC TEK Spawn Bag TEK Mini Mono Tub TEK Sclerotia Mega-Thread . and then wait another 1 week until Soak in water for 16-24 hours. Extras: Top: a2thej Cosmic Cowboy Registered: 07/21/11 Posts: 687 You can mix WBS flour or BRF with your poo and verm, sterilize in PC and nocc with spores or I followed Doc's tek to the T, but my question has to do with the 'let the grain dry for 20 minutes' step. then about 1/4" of substrate was 60/40 Casing Tek. After much reading everything has gone well [so far] and I've decided to step up to Pan Cyans. I have a Pressure cooker and because of that I dont think I want to start with PF Tek. You'll gain access to THATS why people use tin foil inside the casing!! i never understood why but that makes amazing sense. That's it. fxqceqdnzznylwmpovxfvtbxdkkuamngmdhvdxatudprugrwtlnkn